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:: You're right about it being the dictionary that gained mass noun markings and about the way plurals were adjudicated up to that point. COD9 defines NOUGAT as 'a sweet made with sugar, etc.', so it seems logical to infer you can have various types of it, and I would say it was perfectly reasonable for Susie Dent to have allowed NOUGATS at the time. [[User:Mjbrown|Mjbrown]] | :: You're right about it being the dictionary that gained mass noun markings and about the way plurals were adjudicated up to that point. COD9 defines NOUGAT as 'a sweet made with sugar, etc.', so it seems logical to infer you can have various types of it, and I would say it was perfectly reasonable for Susie Dent to have allowed NOUGATS at the time. [[User:Mjbrown|Mjbrown]] | ||
| − | OK, I apologise for the error, I didn't realise the rulings were different at that time. Think the ROADSIDE incident at the start of 2000 necessitated a change of dictionary, therefore I gather this was when a dictionary with new rulings re: mass nouns came about? | + | OK, I apologise for the error, I didn't realise the rulings were different at that time. Think the ROADSIDE incident at the start of 2000 necessitated a change of dictionary, therefore I gather this was when a dictionary with new rulings re: mass nouns came about? {{unsigned1|09:32, 30 December 2011|DaveW1980}} |
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This page was assembled from the skeleton data of Mike Brown's Countdown Page, and the recap written by Mauro Pratesi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dumper (talk • contribs) 16:39, 16 November 2007
"NOTE: While it did not affect the outcome of the game, both contestants' offering of NOUGATS in round 1 should have been disallowed, as NOUGAT is given only as a mass noun in the dictionary, and therefore cannot be pluralised, so the final score should have been 47 - 37."
Are you sure about that? Where is the line drawn re consideration of foodstuffs as countable because you can have portions of them? — Stewart (talk) 16:42, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
In episode Episode 2935, Andy Porter was disallowed NOUGATS as it was a mass noun and could not be pluralised. I had that episode on VHS for several years, and it was definitely refused for that reason. Unless that was a change implemented during the gap between this episode in 1996 and the latter in 2001?
I'm pretty certain the mass noun ruling was introduced along with the Oxford Dictionary of English at the start of Series 43 in June 2000. Mjbrown
- Was it this change of dictionary that gained the explicit marking of mass nouns therein? I remember that, before this time, whether a noun is mass or count had to be judged by reading the definition. I make out you mean a change from count senses having to be explicitly given in the dictionary to them being inferrable in certain circumstances. In this case, assuming that the COD listed no meaning of NOUGAT along the lines of "a piece of nougat" or "a variety of nougat", then they were indeed wrong to allow NOUGATS. — Stewart (talk) 17:22, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
- You're right about it being the dictionary that gained mass noun markings and about the way plurals were adjudicated up to that point. COD9 defines NOUGAT as 'a sweet made with sugar, etc.', so it seems logical to infer you can have various types of it, and I would say it was perfectly reasonable for Susie Dent to have allowed NOUGATS at the time. Mjbrown
OK, I apologise for the error, I didn't realise the rulings were different at that time. Think the ROADSIDE incident at the start of 2000 necessitated a change of dictionary, therefore I gather this was when a dictionary with new rulings re: mass nouns came about? Template:Unsigned1
