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==Editing contestants==
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*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive|Archive]] for discussions from 2007 - 2015.
  
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One thing when categorising contestants, if a certain 'heriarchy' could be maintained, e.g.-
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== Add ZoomDown to quick links ==
  
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series winners/
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I think [[ZoomDown]] is worthy of inclusion on here. [[User:Mclarenguy22|Mclarenguy22]] 17:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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coc winners/
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:So do I. Added.--[[User:Launchballer|Launchballer]] 18:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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finalists/
 
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contestants of series xx/
 
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contestants of coc xx
 
  
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remove all those that don't apply. Love and peace y'all. [[User:Nebagram]] 1707 25 July 2007 amended 1718 same day.
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== Christmas 2020 Specials ==
  
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== My first impressions ==
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Have just been announced, and apparently fulfilled. I propose that since these are being made-for-a-specific-date, they get normal episode numbers rather than the "S" prefix which is used for episodes out of sequence. Thoughts? [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] 21:06, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
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A good start; however, the structure leaves much to be desired. We could have done with a chance to discuss things before giving it this level of unstructured content.
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:This is the first I've heard of them, but seeing as this hasn't apparently stopped S40, S41 and S42 I wouldn't support the idea.--[[User:Launchballer|Launchballer]] 11:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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::Never mind, just spotted the most recent edit to [[Series 82]], and I'm amazed that they're proposing three episodes given they've still got one unaired to put out first.--[[User:Launchballer|Launchballer]] 12:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::Damian's said it was sprung on him as a surprise ("we end on Fri 18 Dec" / (C4:) "what about the next week"). I sort of understand, but that wouldn't be my first thought if I were Damian, to do archive-diving. [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] 16:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::Anyway, I would reply to your main comment by saying that "S" episodes were filmed out of sequence and dropped in where needed: Episodes [[Episode 445|445]], [[Episode 495|495]], [[Episode 1003|1003]], [[Episode 1523|1523]], [[Episode 2874|2874]], and [[Episode 4473|4473]] were all filmed and broadcast in sequence. [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] 21:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
  
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Firstly, what's with such categories as [[:Category:Episodes presented by Richard Whiteley|Episodes presented by Richard Whiteley]] and [[:Category:9-round games|9-round games]]?  It makes more sense to categorise series than individual episodes in this way.  Of course, that leaves specials, which it might make sense to categorise individually.
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== Contestant positions ==
  
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Moreover, was it one person's decision or the consensus of a small group of people to title episodes by the overall serial number as opposed to, for example, the series and episode-within-series number or the original broadcast date. That said, I'm not sure what I think is the ideal naming strategy here. -- [[User:Smjg|Smjg]] 18:13, 31 July 2007 (BST)
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I have a really bad feeling many of these are now wrong (James changed them all about 10 years ago before C1 was champ and C2 was challenger). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtMwRqYsKkg&ab_channel=MartinPotter this video] of the credits of [[Episode 312]] has the contestants round the wrong way and [[Episode 28]] I have partially changed. Worried this may now be epidemic. 22:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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:#Categorising by series is different to categorising by format because the finals used 14 rounds in the 9 round era. "Episodes presented by Richard Whiteley" is useful because there's no particular reason that presenters should change over at the end of a series (it was only a coincidence that Whiteley did so) although currently it could be done that way.
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:I did wonder why certain champions, such as [[Jane McLeman]], appeared to change seats.--[[User:Launchballer|Launchballer]] 13:31, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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:#The naming of the episodes is by number because that seemed convenient, gives concise titles, and provides a useful sorting order for categories. Numbering by series and episode doesn't have any advantages over that. Original broadcast date might be useful, but it's problematic when multiple episodes are broadcast on the same day. We could create redirects manually, but that probably isn't fun. [[User:Reams|Soo]] 18:45, 31 July 2007 (BST)
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::Do we have any solid evidence for the fact that champions move? [[Episode 15]] was also wrong, and if they don't move then 12-26 are also wrong.--[[User:Launchballer|Launchballer]] 16:28, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::Champions stayed where they were until Series 37 I think it was - possibly a draw flips them? May send a message to Mike and Robbo as well on this. [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] 21:37, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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EPisode 17: "Andrew won the toss." Oh bollocks. That means almost every episode could be wrong. Mike Brown says that Series 8 onwards should be fine, but yeah we're in a spot of bother now. [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] 20:42, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
  
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And don't think multiple episodes on the same day won't happen - the series 53 quarterfinals 3 and 4 are proof of that. [[User:GJM|GJM]] 20:58, 31 July 2007 (BST)
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:: Indeed.  However, what is the practical use of categorising episodes by format? Especially considering that, as these categories grow, few people are going to browse them with any real aim.  Moreover, the current system creates an inconsistency: we have a category of finals of the 9-round era, but no corresponding category of finals of the 15-round era.  (Except that the very first grand final is categorised as a 9-round - is this correct?) -- [[User:Smjg|Smjg]] 21:32, 1 August 2007 (BST)
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Suggest using {{tl|click Inline}} to link to the article rather than the image? [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] ([[User talk:The Doctor|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/The_Doctor|contribs]]) 21:57, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  
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:::I'm sure adding a category for finals or 15-round finals is no problem, should it prove to be needed. Which it probably is. And the -era categories are very handy as a check, to make sure no games are miscategorised, misentered or similar. [[User:GJM|GJM]] 21:44, 1 August 2007 (BST)
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:::I take your point, I don't think categorising by format is fabulously useful. However, having the categories is harmless at worst, and if they do turn out to be useful adding them later would be a ton of work. They might be useful for some kind of automatic processing, even if they serve no purpose for human readers. Also, we ''do'' have [[:Category:Grand finals]], from which inferring the 15-round finals is not difficult if it were ever necessary. [[User:Reams|Soo]] 18:12, 4 August 2007 (BST)
 
  
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Since the update I cannot yeet the "you have new messages" header from the top of the page. Just pointing out. [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] ([[User talk:The Doctor|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/The_Doctor|contribs]]) 19:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  
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What was the nature of the server compromise? Without any further information, it might look like the message on the home page was written by a scammer who has compr(om)ised the Reams account.
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== Featured Articles ==
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:I've not been told exactly, but it's plausible that the database on which this wiki is run was stolen, including all the passwords. Of course the passwords are stored in encrypted form, but if you have a weak password or a hacker with a lot of time then it's certainly possible to break that. [[User:Reams|Soo]] 07:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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The monthly featured articles are outdated and should match the current article. [[User:Mclarenguy22|Mclarenguy22]] ([[User talk:Mclarenguy22|talk]]) 13:24, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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:You can change all of them except the current month's by visiting {{tl|FA {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}}}. [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] ([[User talk:The Doctor|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/The_Doctor|contribs]]) 21:16, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
  
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== Where I can find good quality films online ==
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== Episodes by contributor ==
  
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Where I can find good quality films?
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I'm really not sure about this. Quite apart from being incomplete (Alan Sugar, Gordon Brown, Maven Riley-Kovalev to name but three), there seems very little point in naming every cameo? [[User:The Doctor|The Doctor]] ([[User talk:The Doctor|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/The_Doctor|contribs]]) 21:15, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Can anyone help me?
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:If I remember correctly, I created it for notable people who either a) turn up twice, in which case there is no obvious redirect target, or b) already have their own page, i.e. [[Terry Wogan]] and [[Rory Bremner]], at which you may as well mention it anyway. Sugar and Brown can be redirected to their relevant episodes.--[[User:Launchballer|Launchballer]] ([[User talk:Launchballer|talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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:You can use Channel 4's 4oD service, although that can consume a lot of bandwidth. I don't know of anywhere else that redistributes Countdown. [[User:Reams|Soo]] 10:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 
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==People with the same name==
 
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Has anyone else noticed that a few contestants have had the same name. Look at [[Mike Brown]] and [[John Clarke]] for example, not to mention [[Linda Smith]] who was both a guest (indeed while I was on the show) and a contestant earlier on. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] 16:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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:I have a hitlist of contestants with the same name, although it needs to be reviewed by hand. I'll post that when I get full Internet back (maybe tomorrow?) The guest/contestant clash issue hadn't occured to me though, I will have to check that out. I imagine it's fairly rare. [[User:Reams|Soo]] 21:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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: I can't believe they had two different Mike Browns only six days apart!  Is it the later one that runs The Countdown Page?  I'd imagine so - I remember the website being mentioned when he was on, and would certainly have noticed if the same name had cropped up again six days later.
 
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: We might need to start having disambiguation pages, or at least disambiguation links at the beginnings of pages. But what titles should we use?  [[John Clarke (Series 11)]]/[[John Clarke (Series 49)]]?  And when there are two in the same series - [[Mike Brown (first in Series 48)]]/[[Mike Brown (second in Series 48)]]?  [[Mike Brown (Episode 3324)]]/[[Mike Brown (Episode 3328 et seq.)]]? -- [[User:Smjg|Smjg]] 03:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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::There are a few disambiguation pages already, which are named with the IMDB convention: Mike Brown, Mike Brown (I) ''etc''. But I think I prefer the by-series convention, although the Mike Brown situation is a bit clumsier. [[User:Reams|Soo]] 11:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 21:38, 29 December 2022

Welcome to the main page talk.

  • Archive for discussions from 2007 - 2015.

Add ZoomDown to quick links

I think ZoomDown is worthy of inclusion on here. Mclarenguy22 17:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

So do I. Added.--Launchballer 18:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Christmas 2020 Specials

Have just been announced, and apparently fulfilled. I propose that since these are being made-for-a-specific-date, they get normal episode numbers rather than the "S" prefix which is used for episodes out of sequence. Thoughts? The Doctor 21:06, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

This is the first I've heard of them, but seeing as this hasn't apparently stopped S40, S41 and S42 I wouldn't support the idea.--Launchballer 11:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Never mind, just spotted the most recent edit to Series 82, and I'm amazed that they're proposing three episodes given they've still got one unaired to put out first.--Launchballer 12:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Damian's said it was sprung on him as a surprise ("we end on Fri 18 Dec" / (C4:) "what about the next week"). I sort of understand, but that wouldn't be my first thought if I were Damian, to do archive-diving. The Doctor 16:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Anyway, I would reply to your main comment by saying that "S" episodes were filmed out of sequence and dropped in where needed: Episodes 445, 495, 1003, 1523, 2874, and 4473 were all filmed and broadcast in sequence. The Doctor 21:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Contestant positions

I have a really bad feeling many of these are now wrong (James changed them all about 10 years ago before C1 was champ and C2 was challenger). this video of the credits of Episode 312 has the contestants round the wrong way and Episode 28 I have partially changed. Worried this may now be epidemic. 22:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I did wonder why certain champions, such as Jane McLeman, appeared to change seats.--Launchballer 13:31, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Do we have any solid evidence for the fact that champions move? Episode 15 was also wrong, and if they don't move then 12-26 are also wrong.--Launchballer 16:28, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Champions stayed where they were until Series 37 I think it was - possibly a draw flips them? May send a message to Mike and Robbo as well on this. The Doctor 21:37, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

EPisode 17: "Andrew won the toss." Oh bollocks. That means almost every episode could be wrong. Mike Brown says that Series 8 onwards should be fine, but yeah we're in a spot of bother now. The Doctor 20:42, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Proposal for FA images

Suggest using {{click Inline}} to link to the article rather than the image? The Doctor (talk | contribs) 21:57, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Stuck Talk Page Header

Since the update I cannot yeet the "you have new messages" header from the top of the page. Just pointing out. The Doctor (talk | contribs) 19:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Featured Articles

The monthly featured articles are outdated and should match the current article. Mclarenguy22 (talk) 13:24, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

You can change all of them except the current month's by visiting {{FA June}}. The Doctor (talk | contribs) 21:16, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Episodes by contributor

I'm really not sure about this. Quite apart from being incomplete (Alan Sugar, Gordon Brown, Maven Riley-Kovalev to name but three), there seems very little point in naming every cameo? The Doctor (talk | contribs) 21:15, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, I created it for notable people who either a) turn up twice, in which case there is no obvious redirect target, or b) already have their own page, i.e. Terry Wogan and Rory Bremner, at which you may as well mention it anyway. Sugar and Brown can be redirected to their relevant episodes.--Launchballer (talk) 21:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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